Putin is overmatched and frightened

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Milo
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Re: Putin is overmatched and frightened

Post by Milo » Mon Apr 09, 2018 11:15 pm

Agreed.

Only Clinton's bungling as Secretary of State got Putin this far in the first place.

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Re: Putin is overmatched and frightened

Post by Alexis » Mon Apr 09, 2018 11:35 pm

This article is (more than) a bit absurd, honestly:
- Diplomatic sanctions, countries expelling embassy personnel, are merely signs of bad mood, they have no impact on actual issues
- US attempts at convincing Europeans of setting up intervention forces intended for the East have been relatively unsuccessful, and there is little reason to expect change. Anyway, Russia has no intention of moving against the Balts, which would be totally stupid from the point of view of Russian interests
- Western economic sanctions have had little if any impact on Russian economy, which is sensitive to energy price only - and that is not controlled by the USA

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Re: Putin is overmatched and frightened

Post by cassowary » Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:07 am

Milo wrote:
Mon Apr 09, 2018 11:15 pm
Agreed.

Only Clinton's bungling as Secretary of State got Putin this far in the first place.
I agree. If not for nukes, Russia can be ignored. It's GDP is about the size of Canada's. Russia cannot afford what it desires most - empire.

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Re: Putin is overmatched and frightened

Post by cassowary » Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:12 am

Alexis wrote:
Mon Apr 09, 2018 11:35 pm
This article is (more than) a bit absurd, honestly:
- Diplomatic sanctions, countries expelling embassy personnel, are merely signs of bad mood, they have no impact on actual issues
- US attempts at convincing Europeans of setting up intervention forces intended for the East have been relatively unsuccessful, and there is little reason to expect change. Anyway, Russia has no intention of moving against the Balts, which would be totally stupid from the point of view of Russian interests
- Western economic sanctions have had little if any impact on Russian economy, which is sensitive to energy price only - and that is not controlled by the USA
According to this, sanctions could derail economic recovery.

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-usa-r ... KKBN1HG2P8

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Re: Putin is overmatched and frightened

Post by Doc » Wed Apr 18, 2018 4:17 pm

It appears Trump wins again

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/04 ... -rhetoric/
Putin Ready To Make “Deep Concessions”, Kremlin Orders Ease Of Anti-U.S. Rhetoric
“The further a society drifts from truth the more it will hate those who speak it.” … George Orwell

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Re: Putin is overmatched and frightened

Post by Sertorio » Wed Apr 18, 2018 4:58 pm

cassowary wrote:
Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:07 am
Milo wrote:
Mon Apr 09, 2018 11:15 pm
Agreed.

Only Clinton's bungling as Secretary of State got Putin this far in the first place.
I agree. If not for nukes, Russia can be ignored. It's GDP is about the size of Canada's. Russia cannot afford what it desires most - empire.
Cass,
Don't waste your time fighting your lonely war against Russia. If the US can't beat Russia, neither can you... :twisted:

Putin is a lot smarter than Trump, and he has the military power and the will to completely change the status quo in the ME. A few aircraft, a few air defense missiles, a few special forces platoons, good intelligence and loyalty towards Russia's allies, and the US strategy for the ME was completely derailed. Accept it: Putin beat your guy!...

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Re: Putin is overmatched and frightened

Post by cassowary » Wed Apr 18, 2018 7:22 pm

Doc wrote:
Wed Apr 18, 2018 4:17 pm
It appears Trump wins again

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/04 ... -rhetoric/
Putin Ready To Make “Deep Concessions”, Kremlin Orders Ease Of Anti-U.S. Rhetoric
Excerpt from your link:
More Via Singapore Times:

The Kremlin is still coming to grips with the economic impact of the most punitive penalties the US has imposed since first sanctioning Russia four years ago, over the conflict in Ukraine.

The latest measures, which Treasury called payback for Mr Putin’s “malign activity” in general, hit one of the country’s most powerful businessmen, billionaire Oleg Deripaska, the hardest.

Shares of Mr Deripaska’s aluminium giant Rusal have plunged about 70 per cent in Hong Kong since the US basically banned the company from the dollar economy on April 6, erasing about US$6 billion (S$7.87 billion) of value and threatening 100,000 jobs at a time when Russia is limping out of its longest recession in two decades.

Mr Putin, who is due to be sworn in for what may be a final six-year term next month, is keen to avoid having another major company suffer a similar fate.
Hahaha. You were saying, Sertorio. What a difference Trump makes compared to oBUMa.

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Re: Putin is overmatched and frightened

Post by Doc » Thu Apr 19, 2018 12:19 am

cassowary wrote:
Wed Apr 18, 2018 7:22 pm
Doc wrote:
Wed Apr 18, 2018 4:17 pm
It appears Trump wins again

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/04 ... -rhetoric/
Putin Ready To Make “Deep Concessions”, Kremlin Orders Ease Of Anti-U.S. Rhetoric
Excerpt from your link:
More Via Singapore Times:

The Kremlin is still coming to grips with the economic impact of the most punitive penalties the US has imposed since first sanctioning Russia four years ago, over the conflict in Ukraine.

The latest measures, which Treasury called payback for Mr Putin’s “malign activity” in general, hit one of the country’s most powerful businessmen, billionaire Oleg Deripaska, the hardest.

Shares of Mr Deripaska’s aluminium giant Rusal have plunged about 70 per cent in Hong Kong since the US basically banned the company from the dollar economy on April 6, erasing about US$6 billion (S$7.87 billion) of value and threatening 100,000 jobs at a time when Russia is limping out of its longest recession in two decades.

Mr Putin, who is due to be sworn in for what may be a final six-year term next month, is keen to avoid having another major company suffer a similar fate.
Hahaha. You were saying, Sertorio. What a difference Trump makes compared to oBUMa.
I think Putin figured out that Trump isn't going to be more flexible after his second term.
“The further a society drifts from truth the more it will hate those who speak it.” … George Orwell

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