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Re: flogging a dead horse?

Post by neverfail » Fri May 26, 2017 2:33 am

cassowary wrote:
Thu May 25, 2017 8:33 pm
neverfail wrote:
Thu May 25, 2017 6:35 pm


Whilst Trump did not come up with a single proposal to alleviate American poverty that made any sense, at least the Trump campaign acknowledged that the underprivileged exist.
Cutting taxes and deregulation will create jobs and alleviate poverty.
There you go with your one shoe size fits all feet prognoses again!

Cut taxes and deregulate all you want to Cassowary, it won't bring as much as a single assembly line job back to the rust belt. Nor will restored protectionism - the most memorable of Trump's electioneering pledges.

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Re: flogging a dead horse?

Post by cassowary » Fri May 26, 2017 5:15 am

neverfail wrote:
Fri May 26, 2017 2:33 am
cassowary wrote:
Thu May 25, 2017 8:33 pm
neverfail wrote:
Thu May 25, 2017 6:35 pm


Whilst Trump did not come up with a single proposal to alleviate American poverty that made any sense, at least the Trump campaign acknowledged that the underprivileged exist.
Cutting taxes and deregulation will create jobs and alleviate poverty.
There you go with your one shoe size fits all feet prognoses again!

Cut taxes and deregulate all you want to Cassowary, it won't bring as much as a single assembly line job back to the rust belt. Nor will restored protectionism - the most memorable of Trump's electioneering pledges.
Which he is not keeping, to my delight.

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Re: flogging a dead horse?

Post by neverfail » Fri May 26, 2017 6:14 am

cassowary wrote:
Fri May 26, 2017 5:15 am
neverfail wrote:
Fri May 26, 2017 2:33 am
cassowary wrote:
Thu May 25, 2017 8:33 pm
neverfail wrote:
Thu May 25, 2017 6:35 pm


Whilst Trump did not come up with a single proposal to alleviate American poverty that made any sense, at least the Trump campaign acknowledged that the underprivileged exist.
Cutting taxes and deregulation will create jobs and alleviate poverty.
There you go with your one shoe size fits all feet prognoses again!

Cut taxes and deregulate all you want to Cassowary, it won't bring as much as a single assembly line job back to the rust belt. Nor will restored protectionism - the most memorable of Trump's electioneering pledges.
Which he is not keeping, to my delight.
:lol: Well, can you rely on him to cut taxes and deregulate then? :mrgreen:

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Re: flogging a dead horse?

Post by cassowary » Fri May 26, 2017 7:42 am

neverfail wrote:
Fri May 26, 2017 2:33 am
cassowary wrote:
Thu May 25, 2017 8:33 pm
neverfail wrote:
Thu May 25, 2017 6:35 pm


Whilst Trump did not come up with a single proposal to alleviate American poverty that made any sense, at least the Trump campaign acknowledged that the underprivileged exist.
Cutting taxes and deregulation will create jobs and alleviate poverty.
There you go with your one shoe size fits all feet prognoses again!

Cut taxes and deregulate all you want to Cassowary, it won't bring as much as a single assembly line job back to the rust belt. Nor will restored protectionism - the most memorable of Trump's electioneering pledges.
I have now more time to reply than my quick replier earlier.

The laws of economics do not change from country to country, Neverfail. You like to believe that what works for small countries like Singapore and HK, will not work for larger countries. Not so.

China practiced Socialism during the time of Mao Tse Tung. It failed and China was poor and even starving at one stage. Later, it moved towards a more capitalist system. China prospered. China is a very large country, Neverfail. Yet the free market policies still work for them.

Socialism does not work at all Neverfail. The crux of Marx's idea is the equal distribution of wealth. The USSR and Communist China tried to achieve this by state ownership. The Democrat Socialist Parties try to achieve this by taxing the wealth creators and spending on a welfare state.

The results are national bankruptcy in those countries that are the most Socialist - places like Venezuela and Greece.

Face facts. Socialism just does not work. Equality of results does not exist in the animal kingdom. The strongest lions get most of the femaies. Inequality is the natural condition.

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Re: flogging a dead horse?

Post by cassowary » Fri May 26, 2017 7:46 am

neverfail wrote:
Fri May 26, 2017 6:14 am
cassowary wrote:
Fri May 26, 2017 5:15 am
neverfail wrote:
Fri May 26, 2017 2:33 am
cassowary wrote:
Thu May 25, 2017 8:33 pm
neverfail wrote:
Thu May 25, 2017 6:35 pm


Whilst Trump did not come up with a single proposal to alleviate American poverty that made any sense, at least the Trump campaign acknowledged that the underprivileged exist.
Cutting taxes and deregulation will create jobs and alleviate poverty.
There you go with your one shoe size fits all feet prognoses again!

Cut taxes and deregulate all you want to Cassowary, it won't bring as much as a single assembly line job back to the rust belt. Nor will restored protectionism - the most memorable of Trump's electioneering pledges.
Which he is not keeping, to my delight.
:lol: Well, can you rely on him to cut taxes and deregulate then? :mrgreen:
He is trying. And it is not up to him. It is up to Congress. What I can say is that this part of his agenda is sincere because it benefits him personally. I hope he succeeds. The Republicans in Congress must have the courage to go through with it - cut spending and taxes.

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Re: flogging a dead horse?

Post by neverfail » Sat May 27, 2017 12:32 am

cassowary wrote:
Fri May 26, 2017 7:46 am


He is trying. And it is not up to him. It is up to Congress. What I can say is that this part of his agenda is sincere because it benefits him personally. I hope he succeeds. The Republicans in Congress must have the courage to go through with it - cut spending and taxes.
Well, I bloody well hope that if they enact tax cuts they do not make a hash of it like the George Bush tax cuts of 2002.

These were tax cuts for the very wealthy. Apart from being unfair and inequitable - it shifted more of the tax burden on to the shoulders of the middle class - it merely provided extra money for real estate speculation leading up to the 2008 subprime mortgage crisis and the GFC fiasco.

But what else could you expect from a team of blockheads like shrub and his cabinet of overpriveleged go-getters?

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Re: flogging a dead horse?

Post by cassowary » Sat May 27, 2017 5:09 am

neverfail wrote:
Sat May 27, 2017 12:32 am
cassowary wrote:
Fri May 26, 2017 7:46 am


He is trying. And it is not up to him. It is up to Congress. What I can say is that this part of his agenda is sincere because it benefits him personally. I hope he succeeds. The Republicans in Congress must have the courage to go through with it - cut spending and taxes.
Well, I bloody well hope that if they enact tax cuts they do not make a hash of it like the George Bush tax cuts of 2002.

These were tax cuts for the very wealthy. Apart from being unfair and inequitable - it shifted more of the tax burden on to the shoulders of the middle class - it merely provided extra money for real estate speculation leading up to the 2008 subprime mortgage crisis and the GFC fiasco.

But what else could you expect from a team of blockheads like shrub and his cabinet of overpriveleged go-getters?
You got it wrong, Neverfail.

1)the rich pays a disproportionate amount of taxes. The top 1% pay 38% of income taxes.
2)bush also gave the middle class tax cuts too. So there was no burden shifted to them.
3)the GFC fiasco was caused by leftist desire for equality. They pressured banks to make sub prime loans to the poor so that they can buy their homes.

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Re: Donald Trump must be impeached.

Post by Doc » Wed Jun 07, 2017 4:23 pm

"IMPEACH TRUMP !!!"


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Re: Donald Trump must be impeached.

Post by Doc » Wed Jun 07, 2017 4:23 pm

"TRUMP OBSTRUCTED JUSTICE !!! "

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Re: flogging a dead horse?

Post by neverfail » Wed Jun 07, 2017 5:52 pm

cassowary wrote:
Sat May 27, 2017 5:09 am
neverfail wrote:
Sat May 27, 2017 12:32 am
cassowary wrote:
Fri May 26, 2017 7:46 am


He is trying. And it is not up to him. It is up to Congress. What I can say is that this part of his agenda is sincere because it benefits him personally. I hope he succeeds. The Republicans in Congress must have the courage to go through with it - cut spending and taxes.
Well, I bloody well hope that if they enact tax cuts they do not make a hash of it like the George Bush tax cuts of 2002.

These were tax cuts for the very wealthy. Apart from being unfair and inequitable - it shifted more of the tax burden on to the shoulders of the middle class - it merely provided extra money for real estate speculation leading up to the 2008 subprime mortgage crisis and the GFC fiasco.

But what else could you expect from a team of blockheads like shrub and his cabinet of overpriveleged go-getters?
You got it wrong, Neverfail.

1)the rich pays a disproportionate amount of taxes. The top 1% pay 38% of income taxes.
2)bush also gave the middle class tax cuts too. So there was no burden shifted to them.
Supportive evidence please cass?
cassowary wrote:
Fri May 26, 2017 7:46 am
3)the GFC fiasco was caused by leftist desire for equality. They pressured banks to make sub prime loans to the poor so that they can buy their homes.
Leftist desire for equality? I think not cass.

I recall it was done by the Clinton administration in their semi-final year in office(1999). Blacks and Hispanics had made up a disproportionate pro-rata share of the Clinton voter support base whose loyalty must have been based on promises that Clinton would "do something" to make their lives better. Having dangled that carrot for one and one half terms in office it must have been time to replace words with action.

Since disproportionately blacks and Hispanics had been locked out of the American dream of home ownership due to lack of credit worthiness; Clinton's boondoggle would more likely to have reflected a wish to reward supporters rather than advance any agenda of equality - socialist or otherwise.

Having said that; were the banks compelled by law to make those loans or merely "pressured". If the latter could not the banks CEO's have simply politely told Clinton etc. to go screw themselves (or words to that effect)?

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