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Post by Jim the Moron » Tue Feb 21, 2017 1:56 am

"The Jews and the Chinese: A connection between the world's most ancient people"

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340 ... 49,00.html

We are all too familiar with negative attitudes toward Israel that obtain throughout Islamic Asia. But fortunately there are accomplished folks outside Islam who recognize in Israel a like-minded appreciation for industry and accomplishment.

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Post by cassowary » Tue Feb 21, 2017 6:40 am

Netanyahu is in Singapore at this moment. This is what he said:
On his part, Mr Netanyahu said during the joint press briefing that Singapore and Israel are “kindred spirits”.
Right.

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Post by SteveFoerster » Tue Feb 21, 2017 8:38 am

Well, it explains why Chinese restaurants are full on Christmas.
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Re: Israel

Post by Cyclamen persicum » Tue Feb 21, 2017 8:50 am

Jim the Moron wrote:
Tue Feb 21, 2017 1:56 am
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"The Jews and the Chinese: A connection between the world's most ancient people"

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340 ... 49,00.html

We are all too familiar with negative attitudes toward Israel that obtain throughout Islamic Asia. But fortunately there are accomplished folks outside Islam who recognize in Israel a like-minded appreciation for industry and accomplishment.

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No such thing as "ancient" people .. human spicy, people, all same ancient

What can be ancient is the "civilization"

True, Chinese the 2nd highest civilization in human history (first being the Persian civilization)

Present folks calling themselves Jews, they Ukrainian, Russian, Latvian and Polish ethnics claiming to believe in Judaism .. they, pretty much, not much record of civilization, except last 200 yrs max, with Einstein and Karl Max and Trotsky and Kafka and Oppenheimer etc

Hebrew tribe (a north African, Ethiopian tribe, Queen Saba), like many other tribes, Phoenicians etc etc ..

Jim the Moron wrote:
Tue Feb 21, 2017 1:56 am

We are all too familiar with negative attitudes toward Israel that obtain throughout Islamic Asia. But fortunately there are accomplished folks outside Islam who recognize in Israel a like-minded appreciation for industry and accomplishment.

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"Jim the Moron" .. with all due respect, just refreshing your memory :

Who (tried to) wiped out all those Jews not even 70 yrs ago ? ? .. not the Muslims or Arabs

Who did not give refuge to escaping Jews ? Évian Conference

Who was crushing the bones and poring hot oil in the throat of Jews in Spain .. not the Muslims .. in fact the Jews loved and prospered in Muslim Al-Andalus .. one of the biggest Jewish scholar, Maimonides, lived happily and was big guy in Andalusia .. when the Christians took over, they crushed the bones of Spanish Jews, those Jews had to flee Christians , they escaped to Ottoman empire, to Muslims

Any attack on Jews or Synagogue and Jewish cemetery in Iran , any police guarding them ? NO

But , today , in US or UK , so many attack on Jewish , every day occurrence.


Muslim, Arabs, do not hate Jews .. they hate Zionist

Zionist are the people who neither practice nor believe in Judaism, ethnic Russian, Ukrainian, Poles etc who claim GOD promised them the Palestinian (probably the real jews) homes



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Post by SteveFoerster » Tue Feb 21, 2017 1:38 pm

Cyclamen persicum wrote:
Tue Feb 21, 2017 8:50 am
Muslim, Arabs, do not hate Jews .. they hate Zionist
Uhhhh... I think that's a combination of overgeneralising with wishful thinking. An awful lot of Muslims hate Jews wherever they are. Do a Google search, they're not hard to find.

(And an awful lot of Muslims don't. My Malian friend is very entrepreneurial and one day he was saying, "Man, I love Jews!" because he respects them for having their act together. But he's not an Arab, and I gather than makes a difference.)
Zionist are the people who neither practice nor believe in Judaism, ethnic Russian, Ukrainian, Poles etc who claim GOD promised them the Palestinian (probably the real jews) homes
Even if that description of Ashkenazim is accurate, and I'm not saying it is, they're not the only Jews in Israel or the rest of the world -- Iran, for example.
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Post by Jim the Moron » Fri Feb 24, 2017 3:06 am

Israel's Leviathan Gas Reservoir
http://www.jpost.com/Business-and-innov ... ion-482381

A problem with small, but accomplished, countries with only a narrow range of natural resources (e.g. Switzerland, Singapore, Israel) is of course managing some degree of self-sufficiency, especially with regard to agriculture and energy. Regarding Israel, it is approaching food supply self-sufficiency in everything except grain, most of which it must import. Now it appears it is about to be self-sufficient in energy.

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Post by Sertorio » Fri Feb 24, 2017 3:45 am

Cyclamen persicum wrote:
Tue Feb 21, 2017 8:50 am

Who was crushing the bones and poring hot oil in the throat of Jews in Spain .. not the Muslims .. in fact the Jews loved and prospered in Muslim Al-Andalus .. one of the biggest Jewish scholar, Maimonides, lived happily and was big guy in Andalusia .. when the Christians took over, they crushed the bones of Spanish Jews, those Jews had to flee Christians , they escaped to Ottoman empire, to Muslims
As far as Portugal is concerned the Inquisition will have killed about three thousand jews and muslims over a period of almost 300 years. A very small fraction of the total number of Jews who remained in Portugal and converted to Christianity. The number of Jews who remained in Portugal and eventually were assimilated was such that practically everybody in Portugal has some (Sephardic) Jewish ancestors. In that sense, Portugal may be genetically more Jewish than Israel!...

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Post by SteveFoerster » Fri Feb 24, 2017 11:49 am

Sertorio wrote:
Fri Feb 24, 2017 3:45 am
Cyclamen persicum wrote:
Tue Feb 21, 2017 8:50 am

Who was crushing the bones and poring hot oil in the throat of Jews in Spain .. not the Muslims .. in fact the Jews loved and prospered in Muslim Al-Andalus .. one of the biggest Jewish scholar, Maimonides, lived happily and was big guy in Andalusia .. when the Christians took over, they crushed the bones of Spanish Jews, those Jews had to flee Christians , they escaped to Ottoman empire, to Muslims
As far as Portugal is concerned the Inquisition will have killed about three thousand jews and muslims over a period of almost 300 years. A very small fraction of the total number of Jews who remained in Portugal and converted to Christianity. The number of Jews who remained in Portugal and eventually were assimilated was such that practically everybody in Portugal has some (Sephardic) Jewish ancestors. In that sense, Portugal may be genetically more Jewish than Israel!...
That assumes you believe that the Ashkenazim aren't descended from the Jews of antiquity, which isn't true: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3032072/
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Re: Israel

Post by Cyclamen persicum » Fri Feb 24, 2017 12:16 pm

SteveFoerster wrote:
Fri Feb 24, 2017 11:49 am
Sertorio wrote:
Fri Feb 24, 2017 3:45 am
Cyclamen persicum wrote:
Tue Feb 21, 2017 8:50 am

Who was crushing the bones and poring hot oil in the throat of Jews in Spain .. not the Muslims .. in fact the Jews loved and prospered in Muslim Al-Andalus .. one of the biggest Jewish scholar, Maimonides, lived happily and was big guy in Andalusia .. when the Christians took over, they crushed the bones of Spanish Jews, those Jews had to flee Christians , they escaped to Ottoman empire, to Muslims
As far as Portugal is concerned the Inquisition will have killed about three thousand jews and muslims over a period of almost 300 years. A very small fraction of the total number of Jews who remained in Portugal and converted to Christianity. The number of Jews who remained in Portugal and eventually were assimilated was such that practically everybody in Portugal has some (Sephardic) Jewish ancestors. In that sense, Portugal may be genetically more Jewish than Israel!...

That assumes you believe that the Ashkenazim aren't descended from the Jews of antiquity, which isn't true: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3032072/


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Year ago, was debating in ATOL with David Goldman, Spengler, about the subject of "how Ashkenazim became Jews" .. David Goldman (probably googling will find the thread) was quite honest and said "Ashkenazim became sons and daughters of Sarah by MIRACLE" .. Ashkenazim have less than zero ethnicity with Hebrew tribe.

Ashkenazim themselves say this .. chief rabbi of Israel has said Arab Jews (meaning the Hebrew tribe Jews) are much more primitive than the Muslim Arabs.

Ashkenazim Jews do not mix, neither marry, Hebrew tribe Jews. In NY a few (very rich) Ashkenazim Jews married Iranian (born Muslim) girls but not a single Iranian Jews.

An Iranian Jewish friend complained in synagogue they sit next to Ashkenazim but outside Synagogue same Ashkenazim do not talk with him.


BTW , my understanding is (read somewhere) , Maimonides was the personal doctor of SALADIN.


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Post by SteveFoerster » Fri Feb 24, 2017 2:32 pm

You didn't click the link, I take it.
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