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Jim the Moron
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Post by Jim the Moron » Sat Aug 12, 2017 8:33 am

It seems that some folks want to pull down a statue of Robert E Lee. He opposed the Union forces.

Is the monument to Crazy Horse next? He opposed the Union forces.
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Fighting history

Post by Sertorio » Sat Aug 12, 2017 9:20 am

Michael I, of Portugal

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This man was king of Portugal from 1828 to 1834 until he was ousted in a civil war with the assistance of an alliance of England, France and Austria who didn't like his independent mind. My ancestors fought in his army and after 1834 in a guerrilla in southern Portugal. I still have a picture of him in my living room, and he is still for us the legitimate king who was ousted by foreigners. But of course that has no longer any meaning, it's just an emotional question.

Destroying monuments of the Confederacy has no meaning, it doesn't change anything in terms of history, but it is a malevolent sign of disrespect for the feelings of lots of people in the South, who certainly are not dreaming of reintroducing slavery or reconstituting the CSA.

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Re: Charlottesville

Post by Jim the Moron » Sat Aug 12, 2017 9:28 am

Precisely correct, Sertorio.

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Post by neverfail » Sat Aug 12, 2017 6:19 pm

Jim the Moron wrote:
Sat Aug 12, 2017 8:33 am
It seems that some folks want to pull down a statue of Robert E Lee. He opposed the Union forces.

Is the monument to Crazy Horse next? He opposed the Union forces.
https://www.panhandlepost.com/wp-conten ... morial.jpg
I believe that Robert E Lee, despite his subsequent services to the Confederacy as their leading general was privately opposed to slavery and disapproving of the domino succession of the southern states from the Union. Far from tearing down this man's statue they should honor his memory by leaving it intact.

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Post by cassowary » Sat Aug 12, 2017 8:20 pm

Poor Robert E Lee. When he was alive, his home was turned into a cemetery - Arlington. Now in death, they wish to dishonour him, a gentleman.

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Post by dagbay » Sat Aug 12, 2017 9:15 pm

Hopefully these type of violent clashes can be curtailed, though I would not bank on it. The USA has a history of civil wars with one which turned violent making a name for Lee along with about 600,000 casualties. The polarization of the nation is very substantial and feelings on both sides are inflamed by the MSM and politicians seemingly without regard to consequences.
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Re: Fighting history

Post by Doc » Sat Aug 12, 2017 9:36 pm

Sertorio wrote:
Sat Aug 12, 2017 9:20 am
Michael I, of Portugal

Image

This man was king of Portugal from 1828 to 1834 until he was ousted in a civil war with the assistance of an alliance of England, France and Austria who didn't like his independent mind. My ancestors fought in his army and after 1834 in a guerrilla in southern Portugal. I still have a picture of him in my living room, and he is still for us the legitimate king who was ousted by foreigners. But of course that has no longer any meaning, it's just an emotional question.

Destroying monuments of the Confederacy has no meaning, it doesn't change anything in terms of history, but it is a malevolent sign of disrespect for the feelings of lots of people in the South, who certainly are not dreaming of reintroducing slavery or reconstituting the CSA.
It is said in the south that "The south shall rise again" Just words at this point. However the thing I find most troubling about the violence in Charlottesville is that the images are almost all white people protesting. On the one side you have National Socialists on the other you have Antifa(Communists) As in the case of pre-Nazi Germany. Then you have MSM and politicians encouraging violence by not condemning all of it.
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Post by Milo » Sun Aug 13, 2017 8:45 am

Republican Senator Cory Gardner said "Mr President - we must call evil by its name."
He added: "These were white supremacists and this was domestic terrorism."

Charlottesville: Trump criticised over response to far-right
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-40915569

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Post by Doc » Sun Aug 13, 2017 11:25 pm

Milo wrote:
Sun Aug 13, 2017 8:45 am
Republican Senator Cory Gardner said "Mr President - we must call evil by its name."
He added: "These were white supremacists and this was domestic terrorism."

Charlottesville: Trump criticised over response to far-right
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-40915569
Criticizing one side for violence and not the other side for their violence is EVIL. So there you go Milo...
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Post by Booklady » Mon Aug 14, 2017 5:09 pm

From Obama supporter and Occupy Movement to White Supremacist...

REPORT: White Supremacist Leader in Charlottesville Jason Kessler Was Obama Supporter – Occupy Protester
White supremacist and ‘Unite the Right’ leader, Jason Kessler, was once reportedly a supporter of former President Obama and the Occupy movement.

According to the Southern Poverty Law Center (an organization that is certainly no friend to Conservatives), Kessler revealed his political transformation around November 2016, the same month then candidate Donald Trump won the presidential election.
 
Southern Poverty Law Center reports:
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Rumors abound on white nationalist forums that Kessler’s ideological pedigree before 2016 was less than pure and seem to point to involvement in the Occupy movement and past support for President Obama.

At one recent speech in favor of Charlottesville’s status as a sanctuary city, Kessler live-streamed himself as an attendee questioned him and apologized for an undisclosed spat during Kessler’s apparent involvement with Occupy. Kessler appeared visibly perturbed by the woman’s presence and reminders of their past association.

Kessler himself has placed his “red-pilling” around December of 2013 when a PR executive was publicly excoriated for a tasteless Twitter joke about AIDS in Africa.

Regarding the incident, Kessler stated “… so it was just a little race joke, nothing that big of a deal, she didn’t have that many followers, she probably didn’t think anybody was gonna see it,”
Regardless of Kessler’s past politics, the rightward shift in his views was first put on display in November, 2016 when his tirade against Wes Bellamy began.
Sounds like he's on Soros payroll.

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